Jennifer Waters recently interviewed Dr. Rob Kiltz, Director of CNY Fertility and CNY Healing Arts Centers. Below is her article that will appear in the Acupuncture Today August Issue. Jennifer’s questions are noted by JW preceding them and Dr. Kiltz’s answers are noted by RK preceding them.
Prominent Fertility Doctor combines East and West
Robert J. Kiltz MD, is the Founder and Director of Central New York’s first successful IVF center – CNY Fertility Center. He is also the Owner / Director of CNY Healing Arts Center, an accomplished artist, and a motivational speaker. His practice embraces both the newest Western technologies and the oldest Eastern philosophies. It is a formula that has been successful for both his clients and himself. His passion in life is to help others reach their spiritual goals, achieve happiness and success, and live a spectacular life by creating balance and wellness within oneself.
1. JW: Now that you have established three healing art centers, can you share with us what sort of results you’ve seen with integrated practices promoting fertility?
RK: Well, I can’t tell you that we’ve done any prospective randomized controlled studies but what I’ve seen with the integrative approach of adding the eastern medicine; acupuncture, yoga, massage, herbs, even spirituality, is that I believe it helps people continue and to be persistent in their journey and feel more relaxed and at ease about themselves in the process. There are plenty of studies out there that have shown the value of these complementary modalities in improving reproductive function and fertility and I would say, we are seeing the same thing, but my biggest view is on the ability to continue to move forward in the path with a lighter heart.
2. JW: What about fertility drugs; do you think patient should be concerned about the amount of drugs that they are using in any long-term effects?
RK: Well, there’s been conflicting data about the adverse effects of these medications. There is some data that says that cancer has increased and I know definitely that there are some short-term side-effects such as: mood swings, headaches, enlarged ovaries, hyper-stimulation, even strokes can occur from these medications. So, you have to be very careful about them and really define whether it’s the first route you take or do you combine it with an integrative approach? In general, there is nothing we have in life that isn’t of risk. It’s a balance that I think we have to look at, help create and share with people. These other possibilities such as acupuncture, herbs, and massage can help them develop a “happy uterus” and minimize the use of drugs and surgeries.
3. JW: What about the ovaries, egg retrievals, and stimulation; how many egg retrievals are too many?
RK: That’s the other million dollar question because we don’t really know that answer. Most people who experience fertility issues never need IVF. Most people never even seek fertility care on the western side and I think that any of these procedures, obviously, because of the anesthesia, because of the needle stick and risk of bleeding or infection offers any risk. I think overall it’s a small risk. It all gets back to the emotional challenges that people go through and to obtain anything, you have to keep at it. So there this is really no doubt to say that one time, five times, ten times or twenty times is too many, but if it is not happening after six to twelve times, maybe rethinking what you are doing and thinking of some other modality is the best way to approach all of this. Success happens to those that keep at it in life, but if you keep on doing the same thing and expecting something different, that’s when we’re most challenged. I still don’t think it’s the actual procedure that’s the risk, but it’s the emotional challenges that create the biggest risk to people.
4. JW: I know many couples that come to see you already have children and want more for a variety of motivations. How do you stay neutral in this situation? We know the planet is suffering greatly, overpopulation has been a big concern for decades. Do you ever encourage adoption?
RK: Well, absolutely adoption is something that everyone should consider. I believe it should be part of the options and we have just recently connected with a group from Rochester that we are partnering with to help with adoption and make it easier for people to begin that path earlier. I think in abundance in this world and I think everything is happening exactly as the creator has created it for us. All of this tweaking and the challenges in life are just part of the growth of the universe. It’s exactly why some people want to have no children, and other people want to have ten, it’s just all part of the nature of the universe and our own individuality. I respect each and everyone’s decision in life.
5. JW: We see that you have a number of websites including www.mindbodysmile.com and you have trademarked The Fertile Secret, What do you want to be most remembered for when you die?
RK: I love Eckhart Tolle and he kind of laughs at all of this and says, “None of this really matters very much, because where are we in 100 or 1000 years?” For me, I think it’s mostly about sharing love. I think it’s simply for sharing the words of love. I think that’s where Mind Body Smile and the Fertile Secret and what I do at CNY Fertility and CNY Healing Arts and all the things I am working to share every day, is sharing love.
6. JW: We know that integrated medicine is becoming quite popular by consumer demand, but what we don’t know is how many doctors believe that these therapies do more than just relax the patient.
RK: It’s interesting that most people believe in God, 98% of people believe in a higher power, we call that God. I go to medical conferences all the time and most doctors say, “Well we want the facts, the prospective randomized double-blinded, controlled studies and then we’ll believe it.” So I think most western doctors don’t believe it, but what’s interesting is that when I ask the question, who believes in God? 98% of them raise their hands. Then I ask them where are the facts for that? It’s only a belief and belief is the most powerful thing in the universe. Placebo has outperformed many drugs, western drugs, which many of them are created through eastern herbs. So, if placebo may outpace our western drugs, it’s only a belief that is a powerful thing in the universe.
7. JW: It is purported that autism begins in-utero and that one of the elements is antibiotic use during pregnancy. What do you think about that?
RK: I have recently read a book called The Biology of Belief by Bruce Lipton.
Things are exactly what we believe them to be and nothing else. The possibilities of all of this are there and if we are out there sharing and helping with words, thoughts and ideas, there is tremendous value and growth in the universe. I don’t know the cause of autism. It absolutely starts in the womb and sharing words and music and thoughts of kindness will help all of us live a better life. Antibiotics in and of themselves help many people and there are likely alternatives that we need to be pursuing more and more because yes, we overuse antibiotics like we overuse many things in life.
8. JW: We know that in the medical field, it’s often the nurses who are in the worst health. Do you ever think that you will require your staff to go through the Fertile Secret program?
RK: Well, I have required my staff to say “my pleasure” and they said, “No, we’re not going to do that; you can’t make us to that”. They pushed me, they shoved me and I said, “Yes, you are right. Okay, what do I need to do to be better?” And so, I share the thoughts and ideas; at the same time, I say to them, you’re perfect, you are awesome and amazing and what can I do to be better? We have offered yoga to all our staff. I used to walk in and say “why aren’t you doing this and why aren’t you doing that”? And I learned that they’ll push me right back. I say, ‘Well, thank you for teaching me that, what can I you do to be better?’ Then I say, “You know, you guys are awesome and amazing and here are some thoughts and ideas that”.
9. JW: When you say diagnose a patient with fibroids, for example, do you give them a choice of doing western or integrated medicine as possible treatment options?
RK: I look at the integrated medicine as the East and the West.
Absolutely, I share the East and the western approaches in all of this and the risk and benefits and options for all of them and allow them to make the decision that is right for them. I absolutely believe that at the same time people should be using the eastern approach, but not neglect the values of the western approach also. Yet I am still learning and amazed in the things that we thought couldn’t be done with the mind, are being done every day. I really think it comes back to what is in our comfort zone. It may be customary that a traditional eastern doctor’s office pulls out some weeds for us and people are healed or when we pull out a shot and people are healed from that. So, the healing happens within. Everyday, people come into my office sometimes and they say, “Dr. Rob shared some of this kind of Voodoo stuff. Can I have that shot now??